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The Bagchucker Podcast: Episode 3 - "Beards, Battles, and Buffalo Chicken Dip"

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In episode three of the Bag Chucker Podcast, hosted by Chris Mason (Mace) and Hal Gill (Skillsy), the duo discusses their experiences in producing the podcast and highlights from previous episodes. They address a technical mishap during a previous recording session and express excitement about various topics they intend to revisit. The episode covers Mace's venture into creating his own beard care product line. The main focus, however, is on the Nashville Predators' player roster challenges during the pre-season, specifically which forwards might make the final cut. They discuss several prospects, including Jusso Parssinen, Phil Tomasino, and Ozzy Weisblatt, evaluating their chances to secure a spot based on their performances and waiver considerations. The conversation transitions to football season, where they list their top five favorite football party foods, ranging from nachos and chicken tenders to buffalo chicken dip and wings, blending in personal stories and preferences. They encourage listener engagement by inviting feedback and suggestions for future podcast topics.



Mace:

All right. Welcome back to the bag. Chucker podcast, episode three about to commence. Chris Mason here, AKA mace with the godfather of Chuck, as always, how Gil skillsie episode three, bud, we got two, two in the bank here. What's what's your thoughts, how things been going here so far. was good. Last time I led the way and that's, that was a new thing for me. So it was, it was fun. It was a lot of pressure on me, I feel like it worked out and you held my hand through it. So I appreciate it, but it's, it's fun. We have, I think obviously, um, you know, we we're tackling a lot of things and so we're ripping through it and there's a lot of things we have to dive back into. Right. I mean, like there's last episode. We hit on a lot of different things that we, we got to dive back into those things. So we have some, we have some work to do. We have some content to get through Yeah. Well, full disclosure, this is a redo of our episode three, because, uh, we actually, we did, it was probably about 50 minutes. And then, uh, we're learning as we go, as Skillsy said, and you, you hosted very excellently.

Skillsy:

I think he muted me on

Mace:

Oh, I didn't, I tried every single way, but we didn't have Skillsy's audio. We had the video, my audio, all this stuff. And I'm like, Oh my God. And it was actually, I thought it was a really good episode. But, uh, what we're going to talk about today, um,

Skillsy:

Well, first of all, Mason, before we get into what we're going to talk about, can we talk about this?

Mace:

oh yeah, we got this,

Skillsy:

Look at this handsome

Mace:

this, uh, this guy.

Skillsy:

the

Mace:

Yep.

Skillsy:

company, which you know, you and not so great shape with your hat on with that beautiful beard. So tell, tell me, tell us about the happy beard company. I want

Mace:

Well, it's something that I worked at and I'm still working at all summer long. I've actually filed the LLC stuff and I've done all that. And it happened, uh, it started at the end of the season. It was in playoffs actually. And I'm just, uh, I've tried every beard product under the sun, all the oils, all the, everything, the combs, the waxes for your mustache and everything. And I've just never found anything that I absolutely just love or have been like, I have to have that. I have to use that. It's just the best. There's a lot of great ones out there. Don't get me wrong. There's a couple that I really, really like, but I'm like, why can't I make my own? So all summer I tried to formulate my own with all like organic oils, coconut oil, argan oil, almond oil, you know, all things. Yeah.

Skillsy:

climbing the highest mountain

Mace:

Yes, I, I personally climbed, I actually met this, I saw where the Smurfs

Skillsy:

in deep

Mace:

live and, uh, extracted some of their mushroom house oil. No, I'm just kidding. That was terrible. But no, I tried, I just tried to like make my own. And it was, uh, so I use it like that's, that's what I use every day. I actually use it on my skin. Because I don't use any like moisturizer cream or anything like that. And I actually use that on my skin for the last like three months. And, um, now my next step, I've got all the website ready to go. It's not active. I've got a product labels design, obviously the logo. I've got that sign up there. We got to get a bag tracker one now that we got the pod going, but I use it every day and I just need to find, uh, somebody, uh, a big, I think it's called a black label. Or, uh, black label or there's white label, same thing where they make your product in bulk with the ingredients you want. And then, you know, they can mass produce it. So that's my last step. I think before I actually try to go live with this thing and I'm just going to do it slow play it because I've never done anything this kind of like the podcast we're on. So I'm just gonna, whatever, go slow and, uh, yeah, we'll see what happens.

Skillsy:

I'm not a very big product guy, but after looking at your beard, I want to grow a beard just so

Mace:

You got the best.

Skillsy:

I

Mace:

You're the man of, uh, November. I'll tell you that.

Skillsy:

maybe I'll get, I'll get the duster going. I can use, I can use the happy beard on my duster will come November. How's

Mace:

Well, you got the flow going to, you got it all. If you want to grow the beard, you can. You're just, I think you're just, you're just a modest guy.

Skillsy:

a little, a little bit of flow this summer. My, my flow got out of control and I could have used some product in

Mace:

Well, thanks. Thanks buddy. It'll we'll, we'll keep that.

Skillsy:

Oh,

Mace:

Thank you.

Skillsy:

Um, I, I will get some updates as we go. I'm excited about the

Mace:

Yeah, we'll see. I'll, I'll keep you updated and we'll give a, we'll get all the promo codes and stuff going on here and, uh, send some, uh, some packages out to the boys to see, uh, you know, if they like that and all that stuff, but we'll keep you up, but, but episode three, our main focus today. Is, uh, we wanted to talk about the battles at, uh, Preds camp and mostly with the Fords, I feel that's where there's a couple and a couple really, uh, you know, to keep an eye on it's tough in the NHL. Now there's not a lot of teams that really have a lot of open roster spots unless you're, you know, in a full rebuild, uh, you know, Anaheim, those types of places that are really looking to, you know, give the youth a chance. You got a lot of guys that are in the minors and a lot of good prospects in the Preds organization, but Skillsy, you, you've been on, you, you've seen a couple of games on the road too. You've covered those games on, uh, on the radio with Max. Here's one or two, five, the game. Give me your thoughts. This is how I narrowed it down. I'll just, I'll leave you with the four players. There's only 15. Uh, Forwards left in camp. So to me, the four players that are fighting for two spots and then one extra, if they keep an extra Zach LaRue, you, so Parson and Phil Thomas, you know, and Ozzie Weisblatt are the four guys that I look at that are battling for those last two spots. And I will say this going in and we'll go player by player and kind of what they have to do, because this is important now in the NHL, obviously. Yeah. You so parson and has to clear waivers. Phil Thomas, you know, has to clear waivers. Both of those guys are on one year contracts. Zach LaRue does not have to clear waivers. Ozzy wise. Blatt does not have to clear waivers. So that goes into the equation in my opinion. But let's start with, uh, let's start with you. So parson and.

Skillsy:

what it means. Can we just go let's let's just so everyone is aware like this is how we set it up. Right? Look, look at the let's go through the first line. Obviously, Phil O'Reilly and Nyquist banged it out last year. They're together. Novak had the happiest

Mace:

Oh,

Skillsy:

life. he looks like he's going to center Stamkos and Marciuso. Never saw that coming, but he's, he's a happy kid and they look good, real good. So then you have Sissons, which looks like Evangelista on his line, which adds a little offensive side to Sissons, which should be fun to watch. Now we're looking at, uh, Okay, who's going to be on his wing? Is that a Tomasino spot? You got to, but Tomasino is in that mix. He's got to prove himself. You, you have McCarran, Smith, Jankowski that are going to be in the mix, whether they're moving in or around McCarran. I think it's just that big, awesome fourth line center. Cole Smith, kind of same idea as a forward kind of, you need those guys in the lineup. I think Jankowski can go up and down the lineup,

Mace:

yeah,

Skillsy:

So we all agree on that. We know these guys, we know what they're all about. The question is you brought up is the four guys. So Thomas, you know, I think he's, he's got it right there. Can he grab it? I think that's the question. Do you think he can step it up after getting sent down to the American league? And think he played well there. He went through a battle in the playoffs. Do you think he's ready from what you've seen and from what I've seen, but do you think he's ready to make, make that jump where he's a consistent NHL

Mace:

I think that's a big thing. And yeah, so let's start with Thomas, you know, because I feel if I'm looking back at his last season, ultimately, as you mentioned, he got sent down. I thought he made some big strides during the year where I thought he really committed to learning the defensive side of things, the battle areas, how to be more effective. Obviously, we've talked about Ryan O'Reilly and his impact. On the Nashville Predators, especially the young players, Evangelista, Tomasino really, you know, got on board and they were all about it and trying to, you know, improve that part of his game. The part where I think Andrew Burnett, um, had trouble with Tomasino at the end of the year, going down the second half, which is either you can't afford to lose any points and, you know, maybe put a player in a situation where, He doesn't trust them and completely, or, you know, if you get icing and all that kind of stuff was the defensive side of things was the consistency, I think, with Thomas, you know, but I also see a player that came back to camp having had that experience. And I know a lot of fans had a issue with him being sent down. I personally thought it was the best thing for him. I think you did too. Just for him to be, you know, go down to Milwaukee, you're going to be a leader. You're going to play in every situation. You're not going to play 10, 13 minutes a game. If you're playing good, you know, you're, you're playing 20 some odd minutes. You, you get a chance to be, you know, a prime contributor, you know, every single night and you get to play, you have that playoff run that they had in Milwaukee, which was invaluable. But having said that I've seen him come back. As a different player and every player, whether somebody tells you that, Hey, you're good enough to play in the NHL. You have the skillset. You have all this until you actually believe that in every aspect of the game, because as you know, when you get to the NHL, every single detail, you're watching things in the defensive zone and maybe your guy didn't score the goal against or whatever, but. Maybe because you weren't in position this far, or your stick was on the wrong side for two seconds. You know, sometimes you're like, Oh my God, really press play on the clip.

Skillsy:

And it might've happened 30 seconds

Mace:

Absolutely.

Skillsy:

but you could have snuffed it out

Mace:

That matters. And I think as a young player, you don't understand that because you've had success at every level. And in junior, you're scoring all the goals. He's obviously the first round. He's got us, you know, awesome, uh, incredible offensive talent, but in the NHL, in order to use that. All those things have to be done to get the puck back and every, you know, you know how it is my point, I think Thomasine has come back. He believes that he should be here now. I think he understands the demand and the pressure of being an everyday NHL player, not just a young kid that got called up and it's okay if you have a couple bad games and you know, three good games. You're young. He's not in that category anymore. Yeah. Not on this team.

Skillsy:

team. You can't have a couple of bad team games. They got to find people

Mace:

Yeah. So that, that's my rant on Thomas, you know, what, what do you, what do you think of his game so far?

Skillsy:

you know what this, this situation reminds me of is when I was in Montreal, I think probably 2010 around there, there's a young player coming up, but max patch already, and

Mace:

Patches. Oh, who land?

Skillsy:

looked like he was going to be in the lineup, looked like he was going to be in the lineup he came out to the media with his agent and said, if I'm not playing top six, send me to the American league. Send me down to the minors if I'm not top six and I remember looking at it going Who the hell does this kid think he is that he's oh, I'm too good to be bottom six I want to be in the top two lines does he think he is now? I'm like, wow, he was way ahead of his time. He knew I need to play. I need to play big minutes. I need to, to have confidence. I can't go out there and grind out 8 to 10 minutes a night and be the player that I'm going to be. And look, I mean, he's become one of the, one of the great players in the NHL over the years. The power, speed, strength. He's kind of a good mix and, and had a lot of success and a long career. It started out like. I got to be down and I got to play and I got to have confidence. So that's why I think Thomas, you know, maybe got that step. Now we just have to see if it, if it tracks, you know, it looks like he's better watching him in Carolina. He has moments where you're like, Ooh, he's getting it. And he's finding spots where he can get open and make plays. I just, I want to see him have a little bit more drive if he can have that. And if you can bring that. consistently and play. You know, Bruno is going to talk about pace. If you want to play in Andrew Burnett system, it's got to be with pace. It's got to be moving up and down the ice and thinking fast, not just skating fast, thinking fast. And so I think he's got to take that up a tick. And if he does that, he's going to have success. So I think he could be that guy if he wants it. I think he could be that guy that plays with citizens and evangelista. And that would be similar to a A top six, that's a That's a third line that could teeter on second

Mace:

Yeah.

Skillsy:

they get going. If you get a big season from Evangelista, you have the reliability of Sisson's and then you have

Mace:

And it would have been a second line last year, right? Like now, now we, we have the second line that you talked about, which is, uh, as you mentioned, Novak's probably thinking, wow, I got these two guys that are, uh, 44, 40 goal scorers. One's a hall of famer, two Stanley cup champions. And I think Novak's the perfect guy to be able to distribute and hold on to power. bring that coverage in and open it up for the guys that are driving and shooting. But, uh,

Skillsy:

As a, as a beautiful

Mace:

yeah,

Skillsy:

I really like Yusso Parsonen and the way he's playing. I, he, he looks like he's got another gear this year, a little faster, maybe a little bit stronger. He, he, and Carolina again. He, he scored a goal, helped out on another one battling. He, he used his body really well, drawing penalties, defend as like defended. Well, could he be that, could he play wing with them? And now you're adding some size. uh, that's my question is, is can Tomasino beat out a guy like Yusso

Mace:

yeah. And that's the, you know, this is the interesting thing because I think Parson and when he came up as a rookie or when he first came onto the senior, like, Oh my gosh, this kid is, he's 21 years old. He's just an absolute beast. He's taken on, you know, NHL veteran power forwards and knocking them down in the corner, going through his legs. Just, he was like this, uh, you know, there's not that many guys that have the ability to skate, like he does to handle the puck, he's actually a really good playmaker, um, he drove.

Skillsy:

Filthy Mitts, too. He scored the through, between the

Mace:

Remember the one, is that the one where Truba almost, uh, absolutely railroaded? I mean, he got by that, that was just,

Skillsy:

first

Mace:

yeah, it was crazy. Right. So he's got Truba coming. The kid was fearless. But then, you know, you go, this is what happens though. Reality sets in, you have the summer to think about it. You come back as, uh, a sophomore or your second year, your first, you know, full year where all of a sudden, okay, well, you did this last year, you know, kid, now you gotta, you know, let's back it up and do it again. And I think to me, he just didn't have maybe the confidence that he had it. He started out his first game. He scored, I think he scored two goals and tap or one goal or whatever it was, it was a highlight, real goal. And then all of a sudden, It's the everyday pressure. Okay. Well, you did that good, but that's not what you're looking at on tape. You're looking at all your, your things that you didn't do defensively or this or that. And, and it mounts and all of a sudden you have that thing. Am I good enough to actually play in this league now? You have pressure, you know, you have pressure every night. Yeah,

Skillsy:

Maverick said it, if you think out there, you're

Mace:

exactly.

Skillsy:

right? That was Top

Mace:

The other.

Skillsy:

know?

Mace:

Exactly. You just, you have to react that noise. That's a, whatever points, uh, fractions of a second of hesitation that plays over. It's dead. You can't make the play anymore. The NHL is too good. You just have to go out there and play it because he has a skillset and he is an absolute beast. He didn't shoot. He deferred to the, you know, the veteran players. He'd always try to pass too much of my opinion. You would turn back up the wall. Instead of driving the net, getting a little bit of position and he's so strong. Drive to the net and attack the net. Who cares if you don't score drive the net, someone else will come behind and, and you know, get that Reba.

Skillsy:

drop

Mace:

Yeah.

Skillsy:

there, clean it out. He's a monster. So, and, and he changes the number

Mace:

Yeah. I get, I think he, I think he did it mostly in honor of you though. He is like, I can't wear skills. He's number, there's only 1 75 like

Skillsy:

he knew it was going to be in the rafters at some point. So why, why keep wearing it? He's going to have to change, but, but he does have, he does give me with that 13, he

Mace:

It's, it's an attitude.

Skillsy:

his Sunday, his Sunday vibes. He's got that same build and if he can play the way Sundin did, that would be a lot of fun to watch. Just a left, a big lefty Sundin going out there, ripping bombs and being a beast to play against. Really hard to play against. If he can do that consistently, he's going to have a

Mace:

I think he will. I think he has all the intangibles to be, you know, a special player. I think a lot more players in today's game have the speed, have the skill, have the hands just the way that they're trained. You know, they all can do these amazing things given time. Now the trick with the NHL is can you actually do it? How many times have you seen kids in camp before and you're like, Oh my God, who is this guy? He's like, He's unbelievable. He is scoring left and right in training camp and maybe a, a couple games in the preseason while the regular season hits or the end of preseason

Skillsy:

Yeah.

Mace:

you disappear just because you can't do it because guys are bearing down and, and you know, but Parson's one of the guys that can do it and all the knocks I had on him, and they're not knocks, it's just, uh, it's just development. It's part of growing. I mean, he is still 21 or 22. I mean, he's a kid, he's a kid, but this year coming back, he is driving the net. He's shooting on these chances. He'll cut to the middle now and put a puck on net where I feel like last season, he would have turned up and look to pass it off to somebody else. He's not afraid of anybody. He'll go in there. And I love that too. And he'll stand in there too. After he knows he made contact with somebody, he'll stand in there. Obviously he's not a fighter or anything like that, but he'll stick in there and he'll keep his nose around the goalie. If he's, you know, jamming the net. And this year I see a different confidence in him.

Skillsy:

Yeah. How many times you talk to a scout and needs to get to the interior. That's the big thing, right? He's got to go to the hard areas. If he is a perimeter player, no one's looking for that. And if you're going to be that guy, you have to be really good. You have to be really good at it. Most players need to get there, need to get dirty and parsoning, I think can do that. We'll see. He's going to dictate where his career goes, obviously, but, um, a bright future for sure. Another guy that gets to the interior, Zach LaRue. I want to get your take on him. Is he, is he close enough to make an

Mace:

I think he's, so this is not, this is not coming from me. This is coming from, uh, people in the organization, Mark Borowiecki, one of them who goes down and works with Milwaukee, Scott Nickel, the review on him,

Skillsy:

Great development crew and

Mace:

great, just great. And it's, uh, Good mentors for the players too. I mean, there's, there's no other, there's no better guys to like, you know, that have been through the battles of Borviatsky on and off the ice, but you go watch some of his fights and Scott Nichol, the same thing he's, you know, five foot eight or whatever he'd take on anybody. He was like one of those kinds of guys. But so I think that gives a lot of credibility. You know, when you're trying to mentor young players, you know, just, I mean, you did the development with Florida too, and you get the respect not only from your hockey playing, but the way that you played the game. And, uh, I think Zach LaRue really came into his own on the offensive side of things last year. I think, um, they have said that he's probably the most ready of the prospects. You know, when you're talking about Yocum Kemmel and and all the guys that are first round talents. Um, You know, they have work to do maybe in other parts of their game, but I think LaRue established himself as a player that can score, that can be an agitator, that can penalty kill. He's a great penalty killer that can kind of handle all those types of things that you really needed him to work on in the minor league level. Um, but the fact that he has to, he doesn't have to clear waivers. You can just send them down. And I still don't think that. He would be the right guy to maybe, uh, be on the roster opening night, just because you're not going to get the kind of ice time again, we talk, it goes back to Thomas, you know, what's more beneficial for him longterm is it to play or is it to make the NHL roster, even though he could, you know, play in the NHL with the skill set and the way that he plays the game, it's better to go back and play. So I think. He could have had the best camp ever. I think he's really effective. I think he's got those intangibles too with the agitation and just kind of knowing that balance. But I think he'll likely start in Milwaukee and I probably, I do think that's the best thing for him. Although we could see him at some point this year, we probably will.

Skillsy:

I think

Mace:

He's close. He's there.

Skillsy:

and you're, you're talking about, I hated, I hated when people talk about players as assets, but you want to manage your asset, right? Like you have a good player. You don't want to throw him in too soon in a situation where he can't succeed. So I, I do think he's right there. If he gets that little bit of confidence, I really like about him is his low play, right? He can get on the boards behind the net, grind and, and bring it to the net and kind of get his

Mace:

Oh yeah,

Skillsy:

Like, like a Matthew could

Mace:

exactly. That's a great comparison.

Skillsy:

little gritty, but with a skill element, not, not just going in there, around for no reason, like trying to score goals, but get in there and stir it up a little bit. So I think he's a guy that. Um, I want to see more from, to be honest, I like, I want to see it, I want to see it actually happen, you know, and I think he's right on the cusp of it. I think, know, just watching him in Carolina, a little confidence, you know, he looked a little quick with the puck, like a, you know, if he can extend it a little bit more, that's what Brunette is looking for is extend plays, you know, don't just it away. You know, there's a play to be made, extend it or battle it out. And so I think he needs to do that a little

Mace:

And you got to keep in mind too. And I, I know, I don't know what you're like, maybe I think we're, we're obviously different in a lot of ways. We're similar in a lot of ways, but you know, when I was a young player, you know, kind of like I would say Parson in last year and maybe Thomas, you know, These guys are probably thinking, Oh, like, what do I got to do? I got to do like a million things in your mind's going like this. And Zachary was probably, he realizes, you know, he hears probably some of the same things that we're saying from, you know, people within the organization and your agent and you know, all these types of things, you're there, you're right there, you're close. And so you're thinking, okay, I can't do this. I got to do this. You know, you're, you're, you're not, like you said, you think you're dead, you're, you're done, you're overthinking a little bit and it just, it brings on that hesitation and then you, you just can't play your, your full game, your true game because you're thinking about it too much. And I, I feel like I agree with you. I think that he's probably in that category too. And I saw that at the, the rookie tournament when they wanted to turn it up and he wanted to turn it up, he did. But, you know, he's kind of in a different situation. He's like, well, he's thinking about getting a main cap and, you know, do it against the NHL guys. And that's, you know, that's right. But at the same time, you know, when you overthink things, when you get there, you just can't be, you know, as effective, I think, as your, especially a player like him, because he is one of those guys. And we all know those guys, Steve, Sean, in our day, Steve, you know, Sean Avery, all the guys, Matthew could Chuck and even Brady to that extent, but those guys that just get in there, you know, they're going to do it, you know, they're going to get in your face. I know I'm going to cover a pocket. I'm going to get a pitchfork by whoever, and they still, they still piss you off. They just have that ability. They get in there and they got that look on their face and, you know, and they'll back it up. And he's one of those guys that will do it.

Skillsy:

We played with one of the

Mace:

Oh yeah, horny was,

Skillsy:

Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, I speared you in the neck again. Oh, sorry, I speared you in the groin. Oops, oops, is that my

Mace:

and he would, yeah, he's like, well, how do I get mad at this guy? I actually respect how he plays, but he turned around and he butt ended me in my mask and my mask's over here. I can't see the puck. And, oh, sorry about that, man. Sorry about that. And he did in practice too when I played on the team with him and I love him. God, I love that guy.

Skillsy:

didn't care.

Mace:

It's amazing.

Skillsy:

Uh, well, you know what? You gotta, you gotta bring, what did they say that you got to dance with the girl you brought that, you know, like, You have a skill set and you have what you do and you have to do it well. And I'll, I'll give you a little story time with skillsy the young skillsy playing his second year with Pat Burns in the Boston Bruins. And I'm feeling pretty good after two or three games. I had a goal and three assists, something like that. Like good numbers for skillsy. I'm feeling pretty good. Pat Burns calls me in the office and he goes, uh, how do you think your camp is going? I said, Feeling pretty good, coach. Like, you know, I feel like my game's coming around and he's like, what'd you work on in the offseason? I'm like, well, you know, like to get bigger, faster, stronger, you know, like all the things. And, you know, I wanted to add some offense to my game, you know, and I feel like it's going well so far. And he goes, well, knock it off. I see you out there trying to look for all the pretty plays, and you're making the passes, and you're looking for apples all over the place, and I need you to get it out of the zone. That is your number one goal, and I said, well, the guys want, like, hey, can you put it on my tape? Can you pass it to me? I don't care what the guys say! Get it out of the zone. That's your job. If you don't do that for me, then you're going down to Providence. And I was like, okay, good, good summer. I felt, felt pretty good about my game, but he wanted. What he could count on, right? And that's what coaches want. Consistency. Thank God those days are over where guys make plays now and you're not stuck in too much of a role. But I feel like when you look at LaRue, you expect something every night and you need to get that every night. And I think that's what, uh, all these guys, Parson and, you know, all the way up and down is you need consistency and you need to know what you can count on. If you get better over the years. Great. You need to,

Mace:

Yeah. And I think that's the thing that, you know, people don't always realize, even though let's say if you're looking, um, you know, from a fan perspective or you're watching a game and Thomas, you know, has, you know, two breakaways or Parsons getting good offensive chances. And yes, they, they have that ability. They have that offensive ability, but can you trust them in a situation where it's a one, one hockey game and all of a sudden, you know, it's an icing and they're in the defensive zone. Yeah. Absolutely. And maybe they scored that game, but that's the, you know, that's the play that cost you the game. And yes, everybody makes mistakes, but it's eliminating and really, you know, trying to minimize that as much as possible to be able to trust a player in that situation. And as a young player, that is probably what you're You know, especially if you're not complaining on the top two lines, or maybe you are, that's probably more important than the offensive side of things to be able to stay in the NHL. It's like we need to we can't give anything away. We can't give an end to your point. So you're lighting up training cap and you're thinking, man, I gotta, this is, I might be on the power play this year. Like, no, this is the one where we're going to, yeah, well, I know I'm just, you know, but, but the, the defensive side of things and being able to understand the responsibility in the neutral zone and, you know, reading for checks when you're, you know, Team is successfully on a good four check and you're going to jump in. Or do you stay back when you recognize that, that they don't have pressure on the puck carry. So you got to back out and be a great, uh, supportive, you know, F3, which is boring and something you don't necessarily see on the camera, but when you're breaking down video the next day, after you just lost to one in the last two minutes or five minutes of a game,

Skillsy:

Yeah.

Mace:

see that and you see it over and over again. And you're the guy and you have to eliminate those things. And, uh,

Skillsy:

If I can't trust

Mace:

I can't play. Yeah, that's exactly right. And they won't. And you, we've seen like how important, uh, you know, the last every single game you're making the playoffs. It's one or two games during the season and the predators might be in a different situation this year, but now you're, maybe you're talking about winning at a vision. You know,

Skillsy:

Yeah. Last guy, last guy. Ozzy Weisblatt.

Mace:

guy,

Skillsy:

The crazy

Mace:

Calgary, Alberta, he's the Western leader.

Skillsy:

tell you what, he's, he's got a grind in him. He's, he's not a big guy. What is he? 5'10 Yeah. 180, something like that. he, he can grind. He's got some speed. attacks the game. You know, he's in on the four check. He's stirring it up. I just, I saw a little bit of, uh, Excitement in his game. You know, he, he energizes you know, I, I don't know where he stands and I know they're, they're, they're looking at him, but of

Mace:

He's really fun to watch and I thought, uh, he really caught my eye last year in the playoffs from Milwaukee. You start hearing his name and he was on loan from the sharks and, uh, that's kind of rare I think in, in hockey now, but he was on loan. Uh, the predators ended up officially trading for him for, uh, Igor Afanasyev, who was a prospect that I think most Preds fans know that was given some opportunity. I did too.

Skillsy:

him to

Mace:

I did too. I thought he could be a little more, I think he's good. He just never, yeah, I never, he didn't play the big man game. He just couldn't take that next step where you're like, Oh, we, we need this kid. Um, he's a great guy, but, uh, you know, he'll have a, maybe a better opportunity in San Jose, I hope, cause he's a, he's a great kid and, and all that. But Ozzy's been awesome. I think he's, like you said, he just gets in there. He's like, he's, he reminds me of Kiefer Sherwood. The way that he kind of just, he's just hunting pucks down. He's in there every time he's making contact on everybody, every chance he gets, and it's just a high energy, never stop kind of a game. So I think he's a guy that, you know, at some point during the season, I think that's why he's still here. He's being rewarded for the camp that he's had and the finish that he had last year. Um, you know, there's a lot of players maybe talked about it. I don't even know if he was on the radar as a guy. Yeah. That would be competing for a spot. There was Fetchkoff. I know he got hurt and, uh, You know, camel, but wise blots, he's earned the spot right now to be here competing for that job. So I like him. I think he's, he's definitely a kid to keep an eye on for this season.

Skillsy:

Well, yeah, we'll see how this shakes out. I think there's, it's going to be interesting that bottom six, but last year we were talking about this. Who's our second line? How is, how are we going to get secondary scoring? Safe to say that problem was solved. It's, it's a good conversation to have really or four guys that I think could, could help out and be good on a bottom six

Mace:

And we'll see him at some point.

Skillsy:

a good problem for the Preds leading into the season and

Mace:

Yep. And we're going to see these guys at some point, right? Like it's, it's impossible almost, I think for NHL, uh, rosters to stay healthy. So, and that's what they're playing for. When you come to camp, it's you do everything you can to make the roster that you want to be that first call up. And. More of that too, is these guys said, how are their attitudes when they go down? Are they, do they continue to play like that? It's easy to do when you're in the NHL camp and you can see all the way they fly, the way, like everything's just the best, right? And then you get set down. It's, it's a letdown. It's tough when you feel that you're, you're there or you're right there and you could have made the team and you don't, uh, the guys that get called up.

Skillsy:

yeah, you go from having you go from having shrimp on the plane to having the soggy sandwich in the back and you

Mace:

Yep.

Skillsy:

to think they screwed me I should have

Mace:

Some do. Exactly. Exactly.

Skillsy:

and you got to embrace the grind, or else it's going to

Mace:

Yep. And what do you, what do you think the first question is when, uh, you know, let's say Bruno's calling down to Carl Taylor to say, Hey, how's his attitude been? How's he been lately? Like he had a good camp. All right. Let's say that's two months ago. Well, it doesn't matter anymore. You showed How did he take it? Is he, is he being a leader? Is he, his attitude good? Yeah, he's good. Okay. All right. He's our guy. If not pick someone else.

Skillsy:

I didn't take it. Well, mates,

Mace:

Well, you're a, you're a Providence.

Skillsy:

I went on a West Coast swing. I got sent down and I played four games in Providence and I was there for a week and I was, I was

Mace:

Yeah.

Skillsy:

I didn't know how everything worked. I was a fish out of water. I thought

Mace:

years, bud.

Skillsy:

didn't know what

Mace:

Six years in the minors, bud. Bussin.

Skillsy:

Yeah, it's, it's a, they call it a

Mace:

Yeah,

Skillsy:

a reason. It's the

Mace:

it is. It is. It is. But it's, uh, I mean, You know, obviously it worked out for you, but you got to pay your dues. And I was, you know, I was realistic with my, where I was at in my career. That's why. So I was like, I knew I had to go to the minors to get better. Cause I wasn't good enough to play in the NHL, but

Skillsy:

And I think I would have been a better offensive player if I

Mace:

yeah,

Skillsy:

the minors. Defensively, I, I fought every day to be a good defensive player, but if I got some confidence, I'm not saying I would have been good offensively, but I would have been a better passer, better player, you know, I could have contributed more if I did

Mace:

yeah. Well, you're talking about Pat Burns telling you, you get the puck out of the zone. Yeah,

Skillsy:

to pass. Like,

Mace:

that's unbelievable. Uh,

Skillsy:

like, just get it out.

Mace:

Giladote.

Skillsy:

out, kid.

Mace:

All right. So let's, uh, before we move on to our last thing here, quickly, we're We talked about all the players there, um, Jankowski in the mix who had an unbelievable year. I thought he was one of our most underrated, most valuable players.

Skillsy:

Put him

Mace:

Put him anywhere. I think he's obviously safe. Uh, so Parsonen.

Skillsy:

Friars.

Mace:

Oh yeah, that's right. That's right. Parsonen, Tomasino, Weisblatt, LaRue, who's, uh, give me your two.

Skillsy:

I want to see, I think Parson might be bullying his way into this lineup. And so I think, I think he's going to battle it out with Tomasino. for a third line spot. And then I think I do like one of those guys is going to be out. And I think Jankowski with McCarron and Smith is going to be the fourth line, but I, I'm not sold on that. I am, that is a penciled, in. So I, I, I think Parsonen is proving right now, but I'm waiting for Thomas, you know, to give us a little pop, give us something to, talk about. And I think they're both right there. Yeah. So the next couple, uh, preseason games are gonna,

Mace:

Yep. And I think, I think, uh, Thomas, you know, to me popped at the home game. I think actually both of them might've scored person and, uh, Thomas and what, the against Tampa, but again, Tampa didn't dress a good lineup, but that's not their problem. But I think, uh, yeah, Parson and Thomas, you know, and it's always interchangeable play a good game. You got to earn your spot every night for those guys. And I like that because, uh, I think it's gonna, that competition is going to bring out the best in both of these kids.

Skillsy:

Also gives you a little bit of a rest and you, so you're not playing when you're tired.

Mace:

Yeah, or struggling mentally or whatever. Yeah,

Skillsy:

here and then out of the lineup is not a bad

Mace:

don't, you take it like that, but actually in the long run, you're right. I think that's, uh, especially for a young player. Uh, so I think obviously with the waiver things, LaRue and Wiseblad will probably start Milwaukee. Um, okay, we did, we did that. It's, it's going to be fun to watch. And I think both of those players though, Parson and Tomasino, I think are going to take big strides this year. That's just my, my gut.

Skillsy:

Looking forward to it.

Mace:

All right, well, let's get some fun stuff. Skillsy, you brought this one up and I think it's good. Uh, just good old fashioned fun. And we're obviously, you know, what is it? Four weeks into football season. So we've had some, we're in, we're in it. So we're, Skillsy wanted to talk about, uh, favorite football foods at, uh, at the parties, at your Sunday soiree, your gathering.

Skillsy:

This is coming on the heels of my cleanse, where I fasted for a day and I've eaten vegetables and moved on to like, you know, I'm trying to move on to, you know, non processed. you know, steamed fish, steamed chicken, just clean up my diet a little bit. Take care of my body, take care of myself. And course, the second you fast, all you think about is food you know, Monday night football is on and I'm going, geez, wouldn't it be nice to have some football food? So we got a top five,

Mace:

The bag, chopper, chucker, top five football foods. This is a, could be at your, I don't, not tailgate. It would just be at the house party. You kind of get together gatherings.

Skillsy:

Yeah. Yeah. Wherever you

Mace:

Okay. So number five, I'll start with my number five, which is boring and I have reasons for my, every one of my selections. Um, so the first one would be just like the, the pre, you know, when you get somewhere and like, Hey guys, Oh, Hey, how's it going? Yeah. You know, you know, you getting all the. Oh yeah, nice to see is like, yeah, beers are over here, blah, blah, blah. Oh, we can write you this, put it on the, but then there's the cheese and crackers. You know, like you can kind of like, while you're even doing that, you can kind of say, Oh, I am a little bit hungry. I just, I was saving up for this. And you can just kind of grab a cheese and crackers and kind of like eat and like talk at the same time, you know, once you get your beer or your drink or whatever, whatever you're having, you can kind of like do that simultaneously. So that would be my number five.

Skillsy:

Hand foods. That's a theme with me. Hand foods is a theme with me. And now are you, talking to Kikuchi

Mace:

Yeah. The Kikuchi who left it when we have Lindsay, uh, Lindsay on, we'll get more into that and the backstory that, cause that's not, that's what we call it in our world now, we don't call it chikootery.

Skillsy:

In our world,

Mace:

It's a Kikuchi board.

Skillsy:

after,

Mace:

Yeah,

Skillsy:

is it,

Mace:

last season was that two seasons ago or last year

Skillsy:

is it last season? I think it was maybe two seasons ago.

Mace:

the Kikuchi board, but yes, it's exactly what I'm talking about

Skillsy:

that.

Mace:

And plus you have an option, like, do you want pickle? Do you just want like one cracker, like one cheese? Like, we get more into that later, all the little, or do you want to do a double decker where you're like, it'll take the,

Skillsy:

just eating a

Mace:

no, no, absolutely not. I like the mix,

Skillsy:

gotta

Mace:

yeah.

Skillsy:

with it.

Mace:

But you could go like cheese and meat. With a pickle, with no cracker, you know what I mean? Like, well, that's, that's a, that's a topic for another day. Okay. What's your, what's your five.

Skillsy:

Yeah. So going, going with that same theme. I, I like nachos now, let me preface this. I don't want to be digging through a pile of cheese and digging, trying to find that perfect jalapeno with a bit of chicken or whatever it is underneath. Like I want them individually done. And if, if you, if you ever have nachos, like where they're just laid out on a big pan, you know, they could just be cheese and jalapenos. Boom. That's it. It's perfect. Just grab that bite. You're watching football. You're not worried about where you're digging. You can just slam that

Mace:

So is it, is it, let me, is it individually done on the tortilla chip or crap, whatever they put it on? No, not a pile. Like

Skillsy:

a

Mace:

there's separate. So there's, and then is there like, then how do you do this though? Can you just. Dip in the like salsa or the sour cream.

Skillsy:

Yep.

Mace:

So it's just like, it's football, right? So you can just eat it

Skillsy:

And so the most part you put everything on it. You can you get

Mace:

all. You just do a little, like little spoons of each on.

Skillsy:

Yeah, you just just topping off a chip and eat the chip and it's good. That's it's just easy It's easy, but that's, that's, that's, I'm all handheld, right? Not my number four cocktail

Mace:

Oh yeah.

Skillsy:

or as you call them in

Mace:

Pigs in a blanket.

Skillsy:

them? Eggs in a blanket, you know, just that flaky, flaky dough around little hot dog is like, just now dip that bad boy in some mustard. That's like, or like you could spruce it up and get some nice mustard, whatever you want to do. That's

Mace:

Yep. That's actually, that's my number two. So I'll put that, uh, that's my number two, just because I think to me it's like, uh, yeah, right. It's, it's hard to, you know, can really rank them because I could have interchanged that with other ones, but it's, I have it written down as my number two, just because it's, that's probably the only time I'll ever. Eat it is at, you know, at a football thing and people make them all the time or like,

Skillsy:

Yeah. I'm not a nacho guy for the most part,

Mace:

but you don't see that. You don't see the pigs in a blanket a lot. You know, they're, they're not out there.

Skillsy:

Oh, sorry. I'm not a nacho guy. I'm not a

Mace:

Yeah.

Skillsy:

in a blanket guy. I'm like,

Mace:

Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Okay. So, all right. My number four, and it's, I think we're the same. Cause we like to be in the conversation. I don't want to like get a plate and then go sit in a corner, you know, and whatever, and like make it a big thing. So like chicken tenders. I'll just like grab, cause I don't necessarily need sauce or I could just have a little bit of, I always want hot sauce, but if I just want something where I'm just like, I'm a little bit hungry. And like, I want something a little more hearty. I had a couple of cheese and crackers when I first got there and greeted skills. He had a couple of laughs and all that kind of thing. But I'm like, now I'm like, I'm actually a little bit, like, I'm kind of a little bit hungry, you know,

Skillsy:

And you can, you can quantify that

Mace:

exactly.

Skillsy:

you know, like if you get a good

Mace:

You're yeah. Yeah. You're like, that's like, but if I grab one, I'm like, that'll like do me for a while. Like even if the game started, I'm like, you know what? I don't really want to eat till halftime. I can have one in the first quarter, a couple of plays. Just grab a chicken tender and I'm good. And I don't need wings. I know that's, uh, on yours. I think later on, but I, wings for me, I love wings, but it's like, that's like a process. So for now, this is like,

Skillsy:

Yeah.

Mace:

I'm like chicken tenders. I love, and I feel like extremely satisfied after a good chicken tendy.

Skillsy:

It looks

Mace:

Yep.

Skillsy:

mix there to you. That's it. We

Mace:

Yeah. Like whatever you want, ranch, or do you want hot sauce, barbecue? Like you can, whatever mood you're in. Right. Yeah,

Skillsy:

along with my number three is, is a cheeseburger slider or any slider, a Buffalo chicken any slider is good. Like, but specifically a cheeseburger slider when it's got just a little bit of ketchup, mustard, a little slice of pickle, it's like, no, don't overdo it. Just like clean and neat. And it just that, you know, it's a two biter and it feels so good. It just like, it just, you're not

Mace:

yeah,

Skillsy:

burger. It just, the little

Mace:

yeah, that's a great one. I don't have that on my list actually and I actually love that. I'm actually disappointed in myself that it did not put that on my list because I love burgers and you're right. The little sliders. It's not like a big, you know, greasy burger where you have to like, you know, craps falling all out of the place and you're like, ah, man, you just

Skillsy:

that

Mace:

think the same thing. You don't even have plate. You know, it probably should if you're at someone else's house, but you don't really need you can just pick it up two bites and. You had a burger. You had a burger. That's a great one. My number three. That was it. Was that your number three?

Skillsy:

Yep.

Mace:

my number three.

Skillsy:

If I ever see you eating a slider, watching football, I'm going to, that's not your

Mace:

Yeah, and you know what? You're right. You're right. I have to Yep, I have to reflect on that because this one might actually make you even think that even more Even though this is one that I actually do look forward to that. I don't uh, I don't eat a lot unless i'm well Somebody ordered these for appetizers, but uh fried pickles. That's I don't know if they're always at football parties But when they are Like something, cause you gotta, it's, it's an effort. You can either bake them or fry them or whatever, but if you take, or if you're at a restaurant and you have all this stuff, fried pickles are like a staple and every time they're, and I, I don't eat like that anymore except for these situations. So, but, and I never, I never pass up a fried pickle. And I'll dip it in whatever it is, ranch or like spicy. Like, so I'm always like, Oh, pickle, it's kind of,

Skillsy:

Yeah, if it's on the table, it's in my mouth. If that's anywhere near me, I'm, I'm, I'm slamming a pickle chip.

Mace:

they're unreal. Like, how are they so good? I just, I didn't, I don't think I realized that.

Skillsy:

I think the marketing people have done a great job with that, because I don't

Mace:

No.

Skillsy:

that, but now it

Mace:

And I love them. And I think it's just, yeah, I don't know. It's anyway, that's my number three. And again, finger quick.

Skillsy:

can we, can we, can we add, is it okay to add in the, the, um,

Mace:

Oh, absolutely. Yeah. Category.

Skillsy:

the, the, maybe like a little fried okra, or like

Mace:

Yep. Jalapeno poppers are actually up there too. Cause I got the cheese and stuff, but

Skillsy:

like they, put those in there. So you think you're having a pickle and then it's like, wow, got you.

Mace:

And it's just as good. You're like, what is this? You have to investigate ask the host or ask the what are these? Oh the okra. Oh my god. These are amazing. You're like,

Skillsy:

Then there's, then there's a

Mace:

oh, yeah

Skillsy:

or there's always like a different, I don't, why, I don't know why fried pickles always get like a special different sauce. That's

Mace:

And I feel like they're better than come on anything else Like you don't get that when you get chicken tenders you get ranch barbecue sauce hot sauce ketchup pretty much or mustard I don't know. But yeah, I agree

Skillsy:

All right, what are we on number

Mace:

Uh, yeah, number two, my number two already talked about pigs in a blanket. Yeah. Just staple. Good. What's yours?

Skillsy:

Solid. Solid. Good one. here's where I, I flip the script a little bit because I love pizza and, and sometimes you just need a slice of pizza, but I don't, I, know, grabbing a slice isn't a big deal, but I do love the little, the little bagel bite pizzas or a french bread pizza sliced up so you can just grab a little bit of it like, you know, the pizza

Mace:

Ooh. Yeah. Love those. Yeah.

Skillsy:

like, like those, any, any form of pizza put into a smaller package. I'm a big fan of, and I feel like it. It kind of elevates your game, right? Like you're, it gives a little girth to your, like, it is

Mace:

Absolutely. Yeah. Like we're, we talked about all these things. If you, if you have a, if people are serving full pieces of pizza and you have one slice, Well, maybe I can't have the chicken tenders anymore. Maybe I can't have the slider. Like it's, it's a lot, right? The crust and the cheese. And it's, it's a hearty thing, even with one slice. But if you do, that's, that's the key to the, the, the football or the house party thing is small. Things, which is the pizza's a delicacy. If I can have a little, whatever, like you said, like a little cracker, whatever the heck with just the pizza, not cracker, then I'm golden. And I like that one too. All right. My number one, and this is the one where I will hold on, hold on a sec here.

Skillsy:

know if you can hear that.

Mace:

Oh, that's for a joke. I had a little drum thing. I'm trying to use this, figure this out, but that's before the punchline. There, we got that thing. Okay. Number one coming up,

Skillsy:

hornulation.

Mace:

Webber reference right there. Legend. We'll get into those guys more, but, uh, my number one. For sure. And this is the one where I'll actually take a plate and, uh, I actually, it will combine like if those little fried pickle chips or whatever kind of crackers I deem, because another one we, we didn't get into is like, there's so many different crackers now. And usually you try a couple different with the cheese and whatever, and they're like, Oh my God, the cracker was like,

Skillsy:

Yeah.

Mace:

and then you go back to that cracker every time, once you've figured out the best one.

Skillsy:

Yeah, yeah. Once you

Mace:

Yeah. So sometimes I'll put, so it's Buffalo chicken dip. That's the one I just. That's my, that's my crack I think at, uh, is I will hunt that down and I'll, I'll strategically wait like always save the best for last. So I'll have like a little bit of everything that we talked about and then like, let's say it's halftime and I'm going to get a plate that I'm going to get a plate. And I'm going to, I will go in the corner and just like, it'll be a,

Skillsy:

You slow played it.

Mace:

you slow play it, but I'll, then I'll get like

Skillsy:

That's

Mace:

fried chicken,

Skillsy:

Veteran.

Mace:

picks or whatever. Like sometimes if they have like sausage or stuff like that, like whatever, like the best crackers

Skillsy:

Wait, wait. You do a fried

Mace:

I will. Yeah.

Skillsy:

chicken,

Mace:

a double treat.

Skillsy:

into the dip?

Mace:

It's it's savage. It's it's I'll do everything. I know.

Skillsy:

know about that.

Mace:

It's just,

Skillsy:

that. I mean, I like both. I'm a huge fan of the

Mace:

yeah,

Skillsy:

chicken dip.

Mace:

together, it might not seem like it goes well together, but it does. It does. And I promise you.

Skillsy:

I don't see why they wouldn't. That's a

Mace:

Yeah. And then it'll be,

Skillsy:

it.

Mace:

it'll be either like, uh, I'll go, uh, you know, scooping it like nice and like whatever, or just like, if I have like, I'll just eat the Buffalo chicken dip on its own. Like, I don't care. It'll be, I'll get all the stuff that I have. Like if there's like sausage or meats and stuff, I'll mix that like with the dip as well. So like everything, the dip will go on everything that's on my plate. It'll be eaten with the dip, eat vegetables, like whatever, like celery, like everything. That's, that's the one that's my number one.

Skillsy:

Oh, the celery is a spot that hits it right there. You got the cold from the

Mace:

Oh,

Skillsy:

hot from the dip that solidifies. That's

Mace:

that's my number one. Yeah. Well, I don't know if the dip's good, but it is good.

Skillsy:

All right. My number one, just because it's just, I mean, cause I'm American is. Is, is wings, buffalo wings, and I, and I know I, I don't want to make a mess, but for this, me a heaping plate of buffalo wings, and I will disappear from a party, and hide out in the back, and just dummy wings, like it's my job, and when, as soon as I get, I want it, I want it hot enough that it hurts, and I get the nose

Mace:

Oh yeah.

Skillsy:

I like, and I'm happy. You know, I want, I want to feel it. I want to dig in and go after it. And I want an ice cold beer that just

Mace:

like frosted

Skillsy:

this

Mace:

Just like, uh,

Skillsy:

It

Mace:

yeah.

Skillsy:

lips. I want to, I want to get a little bit of the, of the sauce on the beer. So like I can see

Mace:

Like you want the whole, every.

Skillsy:

I want that full experience and I will take time with

Mace:

You want all six senses,

Skillsy:

that's not a smash and grab thing. That's, you know, it's not like the nachos or the cocktail I want, to focus on that. And that's usually, like you said, you, you slow play it.

Mace:

you're, you're building up to the wings. So you're like, that's why you want the pizza bites. So you don't like get too full. So you can like have a good, healthy plate of wings and just, just enjoy it. Yeah. I love that. Wings are,

Skillsy:

beautiful.

Mace:

wings are amazing.

Skillsy:

appreciate your top 10. The pickles, the fried pickles is,

Mace:

It's underrated.

Skillsy:

you threw that out. I mean, I, I feel like

Mace:

Well, it's underrated. And the one I'm kind of, I'm not embarrassed about, I was just trying to go through my routine is like the cheese and crackers is, but I appreciate a good, uh, it's simple, but it's, it's good.

Skillsy:

to be honest with you, but you're a

Mace:

I'm a simple guy.

Skillsy:

from

Mace:

Yep. I don't need much. I don't need much,

Skillsy:

that's all she's giving

Mace:

but it's also like at the certain times of like the, the party is like the beginning. I'm like, I'm not going for any of the, you know, the top three there. I'm like, I'm waiting.

Skillsy:

You like what you

Mace:

Yep. No, I'm not. I'm not. I'm just, it's boring.

Skillsy:

Be who

Mace:

It's boring.

Skillsy:

You're a black checker, you're, you know, you're

Mace:

Thanks, buddy.

Skillsy:

but you're

Mace:

I needed that. I needed that.

Skillsy:

Mace.

Mace:

I needed that today, guys. Thanks, Skilzy. All right, folks. Uh, that I think is a wrap.

Skillsy:

it.

Mace:

We did 53 minutes.

Skillsy:

I feel like, I feel like if, I'm anxious to see once these are aired and when people get the feedback. This is basically like hanging out with us

Mace:

This is what we talk. This is literally what we'll talk about.

Skillsy:

us sitting at dinner or sitting, you know, having a beer, wherever we are, sitting around the rink, waiting for the game to start, and we're just, this is what we talk about. So, now we're just putting it down and let's see

Mace:

I hope you do. If you don't again, uh, to apologize and you can move on and we are who we are. And, uh, you're, you're right, Skilzy. And

Skillsy:

We is who

Mace:

we is who he is. And, uh, uh, So if, if you do have any suggestions, reach out to us on our socials, we'd love to know because we ultimately want to make it good for everybody. That's tuning in. Uh, if you like it, we appreciate it. Any suggestions again would be welcomed. Uh,

Skillsy:

love to hear what

Mace:

yeah. And put down, like, if you're like, if you think mace cheese and crackers, are you kidding me? Call me out on that call skills. You're on the wings. Number one, just go like,

Skillsy:

I was trying to be nice to you because you're my friend, but I'm not

Mace:

no, that's okay. But you're right. That's just, I'm being honest. I'm like, what do you want me to just pick the, what, what I don't think. Okay. I don't think we want that, but it's, it's okay to disagree. And we'll do a lot of that. We'll do a lot of agreeing and we'll do it all here. Okay. So if, if you guys, uh, haven't yet, please, uh, subscribe, rate, review, all the things that they tell you to do, uh, when you're first starting a podcast and give us feedback. I think that's the most important thing. We both really want that. We want to do a good job for you guys.

Skillsy:

We thrive under, under,

Mace:

Yeah, that's important. Yeah. We want to know, we want to get better. We want to talk about what you want to hear, obviously. So let us know and, uh, we'll continue to try to make this better every single time. Here's everyone. Cheers guys.

Skillsy:

Check on.